Is there any chance of hydrogen-powered vehicles becoming mainstream in the US? Toyota still thinks there's a market for fuel cell vehicles, and with our first impression of the 2022 Mirai, we discuss how the convergence of hydrogen infrastructure and availability will make or break the Mirai, as well as the fuel cell Hyundai Nexo. We also discuss what role LIDAR mapping plays in Ford's BlueCruise driving assistance feature in the Mustang Mach-E.
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SHOW NOTES
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00:00 – Introduction
00:17 – 2022 Toyota Mirai First Impressions
10:57 – Question: What role does LIDAR mapping play in Ford’s BlueCruise?
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Preview: 2021 Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicle
2022 Toyota Mirai
Futuristic 2019 Hyundai Nexo Showcases the Company’s Technological Prowess
Ford BlueCruise Rivals GM’s Super Cruise for Balancing Automation and Driver Monitoring
Driver Monitoring Systems Can Help You Be Safer on the Road
BONUS: Driver Monitoring Systems to Be Awarded Extra Points in CR Scoring
Tesla’s and Ford’s Driver Monitoring Systems
How We Tested Tesla’s and Ford’s Driver Monitoring Systems
Guide to Car Safety
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Literally to the 1% who’s reading this, God bless you, and may your dreams come true, stay safe and have a wonderful day. 💕
If only god was as caring as you ☺️☺️
If only a creature like that existed.
The fundamental problem of Hydrogen production, distribution and storage are not likely to be fixed in 20 years. However, we are already seeing massive improvements in battery energy density and charging speed. Furthermore, as you noted, the packaging problem and will never get any better.
I don’t think you have thought about what happens to the grid if even ~50% of the driving population decides to buy evs. The current grid cant handle millions of cars sucking down several KWs (220v*40A level 2) at a time during peak hours.
@monstercameron one word. And this 3 letter word is so big that I’m surprised you missed it: the SUN
@monstercameron The current gas stations also can’t handle all 200 million cars filling up at the same time. But that just doesn’t happen. Just like your cell phone, most of the cars can recharge overnight when other uses are low, and humans will continue to refuel when it best suits them. The US grid has grown 5 times larger since the ’70’s and that entire industry has already stated many times that it won’t be a problem. Considering not everyone will instantly trade their car in for a BEV, and a lot of people are waiting some years yet for the used EV market to develop, which is why the typical car age is 12 years.
Producing Hydrogen is net energy loss, not to mention the storage and transport issues. It’s also “dirty” to produce as it requires fossil fuel inputs..as all “green technology” does.
Well, except for wind, geothermal and solar.
Once you’ve got the infrastructure, it’s just maintenance.
I like companies that are working towards a better future, Including yourself CR! Thank you 🙏
“Super Cool car”! Of course they will be drooling over a Toyota.
Like it or not, hydrogen is most likely the future since once EVs become more mainstream, the electricity infrastructure will not in any way be able to keep up with demand. Just look at EXISTING Texas issues for that.
Hydrogen cars have a plentiful fuel supply and take 5 minutes or less to fuel up. Right now they are a bad idea, especially since in CA many hydrogen stations were denied supplies. But that is a demand issue, not an infrastructure issue like with EVs.
My guess is when you go outside and lookup, you’ll see the sun for the first time in your life. I hope you smile when you do.
It missed its chance to succeed by about 15 years. The nearest fill up for me is 1800 miles away! Who is going to spend over half a billion dollars just to build the refueling stations?? And then we’re back to driving to a special place to refuel, and trucking it around everywhere, etc. And only the first car gets to fill up in five minutes. The next car has to wait 20 minutes for it to recover. We already have electricity everywhere.
It will only work for depot style uses for trucking hubs. Maybe shipping or planes if they can solve the problems with those use cases.
I guess the issue in my mind was the dirigible Hindenburg disaster was filled with hydrogen. What happens in a catastrophic crash?
Likely something catastrophic if the crash is described that way. You’re already sitting on tons of stored energy regardless if it’s an EV, dino fuel, or hydrogen but it’s not like a nuke will go off if you crash a hydrogen car. Energy doesn’t come from nowhere.
The mirai has already “crashed”. 🤣🤣 No one wants hydrogen cars. Battery electric is much better in every way.
TOYOTA 😎👍🏻 HYDROGEN IS IDEAL FOR FUTURE 🤔
Nice to see 2 opinions, one saying she likes the Fuel Cell, how it drives, and the 400 miles range able to charge like a gasoline car, in just minutes; the other saying people would not like the amount of space hydrogen tanks take. And that they look like the future dir comercial vehicles, not for the general public, at least yet, because the vehicle is too big and heavy for just 182 horsepower, the kind of thing we need to know, I heard it costs more than $100 to fill tanks with hydrogen
A great car is the Mirai but the wrong technology. Hydrogen may be the most major component of the universe, but to make hydrogen it must either be garnered off of methane through a catalytic converter or be generated by electrolysis using three times the energy that is reclaimed back in a fuel cell. As there is no such thing as perpetual motion, you cannot get hydrogen from nothing without enormous amounts of energy or using a fossil fuel to make it. Making hydrogen using solar or wind power is like stealing from Paul to pay Peter, for green energy technology would be better utilized to replace dirtier fuels then to propel vehicles inefficiently with hydrogen.
You should flm this particular podcast in your studio, then contact a broadcasting station to air it on television. Once it’s on television, hold your phone in front of the television and record it and then aim the camera in your studio towards your phone’s screen and then upload the live YouTube video of your camera recording your phone watching the tv of this podcast.
Sounds pretty stup!d doesn’t it? THAT’S HOW HYDROGEN CARS WORK which is why Elon Musk AND TOYOTA both agreed that hydrogen cars are “mind-boggingly stup!d !!! Hydrogen cars do a massive amount of “nothing” just to get electricity to power a battery. Tesla on the other hand says here, use what ever you want to get electricity to power the battery: the sun, water, the grid, wind, towing, or ANYWHERE there’s an outlet. You don’t have to be locked into the clutches of big oil.
9 second sounds reasonable. My first car took about 13 seconds to 60 and contrary to all the jokes, yes, it was perfectly fine for 14 years. Besides how many people really need to go from 0 to 60 in 3 seconds??
Episodes get shorter and shorter. Not enough things to say?
400 miles per tank, but I wonder how much it costs currently to fill the tank up
A LOT. That is why buying the car comes with a 15 grand fueling credit.
$80+ from empty.
Also, hydrogenated water is the best against cancer and oxidation of cells. Ask me
How come your episodes are so short? They used to be much longer when Tom Mutchler was around.
2nd Gen Mirai, not worth leasing, on a purchase XLE – 17K off / Limited – 25K off (2/1/22 – 2/28/22). Resale on the 1st Gen is in the mid to low teens. Hydrogen in passenger vehicles is going nowhere. Requires more energy to, blah, blah plenty of articles explaining this. Same waste as Ethanol. If you are OK with paying over 60K for a mid sized sedan go ahead. Packaging is unsolvable. Hydrogen is even questionable in Semi trucks. Hydrogen could be a possibility in aircraft.